The ceda Networking and Cedabond Awards Dinner

The Thursday night dinner at the 2018 ceda Conference is once again bringing together leading UK chef organisations to devise, produce and deliver a marvellous 3 course meal.

This year the dinner will feature The Craft Guild of Chefs and The Master Chefs of Great Britain.

Lee Maycock, Chair of The Craft Guild of Chefs commented; “We’re delighted to return to the ceda Conference for the third year to join the celebrations and showcase our talents. This year for the first time we will be joined by The Master Chefs of Great Britain and are looking forward to working closely with them.”

The evening provides informal networking opportunities for delegates and raise funds for this year’s cause Jeff’s Way.

ceda Director General, Adam Mason, commented; “Last year’s Thursday night dinner was superb and we are really looking forward to strengthening our relationship with the Craft Guild and building a new one with The Master Chefs of Great Britain. The evening is always fun with our fundraising game and the Cedabond Awards and the ceda family and our guests always enjoy great food. I’ve seen the menu and I think we are in for a treat!”


ceda Supplier Awards 2018 Shortlist Announced

ceda Supplier Awards 2018 Shortlist Announced

ceda are delighted to announce the shortlisted companies for their 2018 Supplier Awards. The winners will be announced at the Gala Dinner at the ceda Conference taking place on the 26th and 27th April at St George’s Park Burton-upon- Trent.

The awards recognise those companies that have provided outstanding service to ceda members and are in three categories, Heavy Equipment; Light Equipment, Accessories and Spares; and Outstanding Customer Service.

These categories are voted on by ceda members in the run up to the awards night with each ceda member being asked to list their top 3 suppliers in each category.

The results for this year’s nominations include:

Heavy Equipment category
Maidaid-Halcyon Ltd
Meiko UK Ltd
Rational UK Ltd

Light Equipment, Accessories and Spares category
First Choice Catering Spares Ltd
Mechline Developments Ltd
Metcalfe

Outstanding Customer Service category
Maidaid-Halcyon Ltd
Meiko UK Ltd
Rational UK Ltd

Adam Mason, ceda’s Director General, commented “Making the final shortlist should mean a great deal as they are voted on by their customer base. They are testament to the supply-chain relationships that we nurture at ceda and huge congratulations them all.“


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Tickets and more information about the event can found here: yfood.com/yfood-insight-and-innovation-day-eating-and-drinking-out-may-2018/


Question

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Please can we ask the Helpdesk if any members can recommend or suggest a Freelance Project Manager?

Replies

    1. Paul Downes of Surefire Contract Management. Been in the industry for years and a very knowledgeable resource.
    2. Trevor Jones – Green Design & Project Management. Tel: 07900 181475
    3. Contact Charlie Parker. Email: charlesparkercbp@outlook.com
    4. Doug Perea dougperea@dapces.com
    5. Ian Whiston, based up here Oldham way but does cover the country. Tel: 07864 702484
    6. Sanjai Rohatgi (Project Manager). Tel 07854 922012. Email: Sajai.rohatgi@jivefax.co.uk

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I am looking for a company in and around the London area that can offer help with a strip out and removal of an existing kitchen along with storage of equipment to be retained and then some consolidation and delivery back to site.

Replies

    1. Danny Kett at Clean Air Systems. Tel: 01376 335356
    2. Court Catering Equipment Limited. Tel: 0208 576 6520. Website: www.courtcatering.co.uk
    3. FSW Gas Services. Tel: 0161 943 0268. Website: www.fswgasservices.co.uk
    4. Chiller Box Ltd. Tel: 0800 849 1188. Website: www.chillerbox.com
    5. Archer Catering Systems Ltd. Tel: 0161 737 8307
    6. Cleanstart, 25b Barking Industrial Park, Ripple Road, Barkin, Essex, IG11 0TJ Contact: Ron McEwen cleanstart12@btconnect.com Mobile: 07775537038 Tel: 02085945088. Ron will also clean and service the equipment.
    7. General Catering Equipment Tel: 01302 340742 Website: www.generalcatering.co.uk
    8. C&C Catering Equipment Limited Website: https://cateringequipment.com/ Tel: 01244 625170
    9. Wilcox Burchmore. Website: www.wilcoxburchmore.co.uk Tel: 01895 630726
    10. AGGORA Projects Ltd. Website: www.aggora.com Tel: 0845 1177 555 ext: 132
    11. Mark Hazell | Senior Accounts Manager | Gratte Brothers Catering Equipment Ltd. Email mhazell@gratte.com Phone 01438 750022 | Mobile 07753915521

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Can any members recommend a good supplier for bean to cup coffee machines serving up to about 100 cups a day who are happy to deal with catering equipment companies (rather than those specifically in the coffee sector) aside from Brew Group?

Replies

  1. Bravilor Adam https://www.bravilor.com/en-GB/product/freshground-xl-510/323
  2. General Catering Ltd can help specifically with returned machines. They have large quantity of thermoplan bean to cup and all machines are in working order with full service history www.generalcatering.co.uk
  3. Justin Stockwell @ Caffiene
  4. Morvend. Contact: Andy Gurney andy@morvend.co.uk Tel: 0800 9775992. Mobile: 07825 113944. They are very helpful and professional, based in Herts.
  5. Best person to talk to is Justin Stockwell, Managing Director – Justin@caffeinelimited.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1707-278400
  6. The only company we have dealt with is WMF. They happily deal with distributors but are very ‘picky’ about installation which they insist on doing themselves and has to be 100% correct. And that means 100% They also like to develop a direct relationship with the client as well, which doesn’t always sit well. Other than that, good machines with good results.
  7. Fracino http://www.fracino.com/downloads/brochures/cybercino.pdf
  8. WMF

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ceda Silver Partner LF Spare Parts Ltd announce new app

One solution for both smartphones and tablets.

ceda Silver Partner LF Spare Parts Ltd announce the launch of new app. The app from LF Group allows you to access the LF web shop at any time and to browse all LF has to offer in a simple and intuitive way.

  • Search from over 62,000 items
  • Further filter your search
  • Browse the multitude of exploded drawings
  • Browse our digital catalogues
  • Efficiently improve your work load with the LF Group app!

For further information:
info@lfspareparts.co.uk
www.lfspareparts724.co.uk


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Question

Are you aware of whether many catering companies pay for ‘travel time’ from home to the first job / from last job? We have historically paid 1 ½ which doesn’t seem realistic or sustainable so any thoughts / feedback from other catering companies would be appreciated.

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  1. We do at Time and a half as long as they have completed 8 hours normal time.
  2. We charge from our Works back to our Works even if the Engineer goes straight from home and unless a customer is on a Contract Rate. It is charged on the hourly labour rate with no additional mileage.
  3. Our company has always paid for travel time.
  4. Yes we come across this with some of the sub contractors we use.
  5. We pay from home to home although I don’t agree.
  6. No we don’t we charge one call out to site and that is it no matter where the engineer is, like wise RTF (return to fit) we charge a half call out RTf no matter where we come from and then standard labour when we hit site. There are some customers who pay a fuel surcharge over a certain distance but they are the multi site customers and we go from a contract set point so for example there is a set point in Newport and one in west wales and if we go over 50 miles from that point we can charge the distance less 50 miles , for example 78 miles would become a 28 mile diesel charge @ 50ppp
  7. My guys are salaried so this forms part of their working day.
  8. This has been a bone of contention for some time, and based on our research it is generally an industry norm.
    We pay from home to first job and last job to home minus 30 minutes from each way. This 30 minutes is an average amount of time that it would take to get to their place of work and back home (Head office) if they were generally local.
  9. Our engineers have travelling included in costs due to time/distance element on our projects.
  10. This is always a bone of contention. I personally find it greedy to a degree and the analogy I use is that the office staff have to get to work on time and the average travel time is 30mins and I don’t pay them so why would I pay the engineer. My rule of thumb is if they start at 07.30 and set off at 06.30 I pay the 1 hour at the overtime rate. I do understand that with me saying I wont pay the first half hour they will always set off the hour before so they do get paid. It is a very difficult one to know what to do for the best. Unfortunately because good engineers are hard to come by they do have us by the short and curly’s unfortunately.
  11. My local engineers get paid from the office in the morning until they arrive home at night while the outside guys, who work from home, are paid from door to door.
  12. We had this issue with an engineer, we paid both it is tricky I would recommend you negotiate all travel time no matter what the time is flat rate.
  13. From experience, engineers pay is always door to door.
  14. We don’t pay for the first 20 mins travel at the start and end of the day. If I remember correctly this was on the advice of our accountant or our engineers use of the vehicle to travel to work would be classed as a perk and therefore declarable to HMRC.
  15. We pay engineers from company premises – if they go straight to a job near home then they have the advantage of a later start – if they go straight to a job further afield then we have the advantage of saving the travel time. We pay for 40 hours per week and retain a degree of flexibility.
  16. Most companies I have dealt with will pay travel time, in particular the last call at the end of the day, as the geographical area covered can take the engineers out with the region their main office is located.

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ceda confidence survey shows 2017 positives

The results of the latest quarterly survey of ceda members are in, and the positive trends seen in first three quarters of 2017 continued in Q4.

64 ceda members took part in the survey and overwhelmingly reported sales growth against the previous quarter, quarter-on-quarter, and against year-to-date sales.

How did your sales for the last quarter compare with the previous quarter?

Better than = 53.13%     Same as = 35.94%     Worse than = 10.94%

53.13% of respondents said their sales in the fourth quarter of 2017 were better than those in the third quarter of 2017.

 

How did your sales for the last quarter compare with the same quarter in previous year?

Better than = 56.25%     Same as = 31.25%     Worse than = 12.50%

Quarter-on-quarter sales against the same period in 2016 also showed better results with 56.25% of participants reporting a growth.

 

How do your year-to-date sales for this current year compare with your year-to-date last year?

Better than = 54.69%     Same as = 25.00%     Worse than = 21.30%

Year-to-date sales are better for 54.69% of those surveyed, compared the year-to-dates sales last year.

 

How do you forecast your sales for the next quarter compared with the previous quarter?

Better than = 48.44%     Same as = 35.94%     Worse than = 15.63%

Cautious optimism also appears to be prevalent in forecast sales for Q1 of 2018 with 48.44% of ceda members predicting better sales, compared to Q4 of 2017.

 

How did the number of enquiries received from the PRIVATE SECTOR in the last quarter compare with the previous quarter?

Better than = 53.23%     Same as = 40.32%     Worse than = 6.45%

Not only were enquires from the private sector up against the previous quarter for the majority of ceda members, but only 6.45% said they were worse. In the same vein, results also showed Restaurants were overwhelmingly the area of the private sector generating the most enquires from Oct to Dec 2017.

Other questions included: ‘Was your average margin this year better or worse than the previous year?’ (50.00% answered ‘Same’); and ‘How did the number of enquiries received from the PUBLIC SECTOR in the last quarter compare with the previous quarter?’ (60.00% ‘Same’).


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Question

We are designing the catering in a new build and the main client has told us that it’s our responsibility to design/draw the pipework route from the coldrooms to the roof located compressors. We’ve never done this before as its always been part of the M&E package. Could members advise either on their experience or a suitable reply?

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  1. The simplest way to achieve this is to get the cold room manufacturer on site to execute a full and detailed survey, they will then produce manufacturers drawings showing the route. There may be a cost for this exercise.
  2. I would recommend they get the appropriate advice from their coldroom suppliers as usually there are oil traps required on a vertical run. They would have to agree a route with the builder or building management as this would depend on access physical provision of the route, so a site survey by the refrigeration supplier would need to happen. Also, usually containment is down to the builder so might be worth checking if that will be excluded also.
  3. As a top quality ceda member surely the company who supplies the refrigeration install service would do this as a level of their competence.
  4. Our experience of this was to ask our sub-contract cold-room installer who makes the cold-rooms up and was happy to provide us with the layout drawing as they were running the pipework. It does mean faffing around revisiting site if the walls are up and then planning the route, which can take some time. You must ensure that they the client provide a drawing showing all other plant or equipment as we found that the position of our pipe run was through a boiler that was not on their drawings. We also charged for this service . Hope this helps .
  5. This needs to be coordinated by the M&E contractor/consultant but it is not unreasonable for them to ask the fridge contractor for this to be provided as a drawing. Suggest they throw back to the client and ask for confirmation of pipework route required for the coordination of the installation with other services and future maintenance. Ask for a full set of cad drawings for the route so once a route is agreed, get the fridge company to plot it on the drawing.
  6. As a general rule of thumb this is the norm on most of the projects we undertake. The design and drawing would always be with the Cold Store provider.

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