Question:

I wonder if you could help us with a Query in regard to duel fuelled (wood and Gas) pizza ovens.
We’ve been asked to fit two and one previously at another site Duel Fuelled Pizza Ovens. We would like to know people’s opinion in regards to these units and any implications with fitting these in sites? An honest opinion would be great please. We understand that if they are fitted within a kitchen that no other extraction unit can be fitted in that room and that they require an extraction fan in the flue if exiting the kitchen directly without a canopy. These would then need to be interlocked to the gas supply and a CO2 monitor fitted in the room also interlocked to the extraction fan. Also, in regard to burning embers within the pizza oven after service, what would be the correct manner in which the installation should fitted, i.e., temperature sensor within the flue preventing the extraction from being turned off until an optimum temperature is reached and the embers burnt out?
I look forward to any response please.

Replies:

1. I suggest you contact Lee Preston at Inox Fabrications Ltd Email- Lee@inoxfabrications.com Web- www.inoxfabrications.com
2. Refer to the Guidance document on solid fuel appliances – Guides – ceda
3. Firstly, If its duel fuel it must be approved by DEFRA as an approved appliance for use in a smokeless zone, either the appliance is approved or the fuel is approved, wood is not an approved fuel for use in smokeless zones and by default the appliance must be approved (not many places in the U.K are exempt or do not fall under a smokless zones)
   Secondly if you are burning wood, it should have a dedicated duct to atmosphere and not run into a common duct, you can only use a common duct on gas only, there mere fact its duel fuel says it needs dedicated extract.
   The spec and regs does not say you that you can’t have another extract system in the same room, the issue is having one running and then for example turning off the wood burning extract off and then the main extract pulling smoke and fumes from the wood burning appliance, so you could in theory link the two systems so they are balanced and can only work at the same time.
   I would then link the wood burning appliance system with a C02 monitor so if CO2 is detected (say 1 hour after service is shut down) the system kicks back in.
   The operator should put in place a standard operating procedure SOP to stipulate how they will handle end of service  burning embers, but if a CO2 monitor is fitted that deals with fume build up but not potential the fire risk, it can be as simple as the oven gets stopped being used at 9pm and the wood left to burn out, for two hours,  embers/ash are then  removed into an steel bucket, doused and removed to atmosphere.
4. In brief my view would be; Generally this type of oven will need a direct extract with double wall. Burning wood will create the need to clean the duct more regularly, maybe ever 6 weeks due to the effe4cts of the sap. There might be “clean air act” issues. Almost certainly will need CO & CO2 monitors and indeed control to switch the extract back on overnight if the levels rise above permissible levels, without this there’s a risk that you kill the prep chef or cleaner. Duel fuel of just wood always sounds like a great idea, generally isn’t.
5. I suggest they read and work to section 10 of the ceda Industry Guidance Final and include CO sensors rather than CO2.

Question:

We had previously asked members for a supplier of a single, counter-top, nat gas wok burner, similar to the Nayati back-bar units which are no longer available, and Maxima in Netherlands was recommended. Unfortunately, Maxima are now unable to supply to the UK because of ‘Brexit complications. Any other suggestions would be gratefully received!

Replies:

1. Not a personal recommendation, but after having a good dig around the internet, I came across the below:
   https://www.fareastwok.com/portfolio/hong-kong-ce-equipment-ypt/  – Uk Manufacturer of Eastern Cooking Equipment.
2. I don’t know if they do make this specific item, but Far East Industries might be worth a shout!

Question:

With the demise of H Fereday and Weylux brand, can anyone recommend a reliable UK supplier of industrial platform scales with minimum 300kg capacity. We already know of Avery Berkel.

Replies:

1. Adam Equipment Co Ltd, Maidstone Road, Kingston, Milton Keynes, MK10 0BD.
2. Brash would be another brand.

Question:

Do the members know of a system for commercial kitchens that balances electrical usage by turning equipment on and off?

Replies:

1. With the Sicotronic Energy optimisation System we have exactly that solution and I will be happy to assist your member in any way I can. Your members are welcome to visit the website or our LinkedIn page for more information. In addition to the optimisation we also offer full connectivity and energy management & monitoring solutions so I am sure we can find a solution to your members challenge.
   Please do feel free to forward our details and I look forward to catching up with you soon.
   Kind regards
   Richard Fordham
   Ki-Tech Solutions
   Tel: 0044 (0)7968 426302 (mobile)
   Tel: 03300 552779 (office)
   Address: PO Box 9116, Sturminster Newton, DT10 9BN
   Email: richard@ki-tech.solutions
   Website: www.ki-tech.solutions
2. In response to your email about energy optimisation contact Richard Fordham who may be able to help. Email: richard@ki-tech.solutions Tel: 0330 055 2779 Mobile: 07968 426302
3. A company called Sicotronic do this. See Sicotronic Presentation  291019.pptx
4. Sicotronic. Contact- Richard Fordham. Tel: (0)7968 426302 (mobile) or (0)1963 364649 (office)
5. Maybe Quintex.co.uk can help.
6. The only system I know of that is supported in the UK is Sicotronic (great system) managed by Ki-Tech – Richard Fordham http://ki-tech.solutions/
7. Andy Fulham at KI-Tech Solutions. Tel: (0)7880 700900 (mobile) or  03300 552779 (office). Email: andy@ki-tech.solutions  Website: www.ki-tech.solutions
   Refer to http://ki-tech.solutions/sicotronic-commercial-catering-equipment-and-kitchen-energy-optimisation/
8. The De Manincor ’TCS’ system does this by load lopping between equipment 30 times a second to keep energy usage under a certain value and stop any overloading of equipment.
   The DeManincor system (which can work with any equipment, not just DeManincor).
   We would act as DeManincor UK with the member, so would be no conflict of interest. More information can be found here: https://professional.demanincor.com/en/energy-management/Hope this is of use to the ceda member and please do let us know if we can be of assistance.
   Kind regards,
   Dean Kahl
   Marketing & PR Manager / 01920 877007 ext. 307
   TAG Catering Equipment
9. I remember CI Mag had a feature on ‘smart kitchens’ and discuss Apps – https://www.cateringinsight.com/how-much-energy-could-be-saved-in-smart-kitchens/

Question:

I am looking for a fabricator of mechanical dish wash tabling. Just to clarify – this is a roller table but powered.

Replies:

1. The image forwarded to me looks like Nordien (now part of Metos) which is distributed in UK by BGL Rieber sales@bglrieber.co.uk
2. Trak Hupfer also do something similar sales@trak-systems.com
3. Rackmaster Limited, Unit 5 Russell Court, Russell Gardens, Shotgate, Wickford, Essex, SS11 8QU. Tel: 01268 730722
4. Univent Systems.  Exhall, Coventry CV7 9EN. Tel:  02476 367000 and speak to Jeff or Sam.
5. Birmingham Catering Equipment, Unit 139A Middlemore Industrial Estate, Middlemore Road, Birmingham B21 OAY. Tel: 0121 558 2451
6. Please contact John Ward – Scobie McIntosh – Email: John.Ward@scobie.uk .
7. Contact Tony Chamberlin – Stellex – Email: tony@stellex.co.uk – Mobile: 07730 200 844
8. One or two members have suggested TRAK but added that they are closed until the new year but their project director, Mark Reynolds can be contacted as follows: Mark Reynolds – Projects Director – Tel: 0151 549 1010 / 07765 403 316 – Email: mark@trak-systems.com

Question:

Can anyone recommend a counter-top gas single wok burner. Something similar to the Amicus unit previously distributed by Nayati?

Replies:

1. I believe Baron supplied by Universal fse looked at manufacturing one of these.

Question:

I am looking for a supplier of co2 glass frosters. Do you know of anyone that supplies such products. My client is after a roll out for their bars.

Something like the following: https://www.hallsintl.com/krowne-royal-series-drop-in-liquid-co2-glass-froster-drainboard-cabinet

Replies:

1. Brewfitt – https://www.brewfitt.com/
2. Alasdair MacMillan has said ‘I can help with supplier and usage advice if required.’ Please contact him on alasdair.macmillan@scomacuk.com or 07966 423881

Question:

We are looking for a reliable company or companies who specialise in servicing/cleaning of extract ducts & hoods, and also for kitchen deep cleans.
The contract is UK wide but regional companies would also be of interest.

Replies:

1. ceda Service Member ‘Kaitakare Ltd’. Please contact Darren Asson – DD: 01785 716532 option 1 – M:  07973913434 – Email: darren@kaitakare.co.uk
2. ceda Service Member ‘FSW Catering Equipment & Gas Services Ltd’. Please contact Aimee Miller. Email: repairs@fswgasservices.co.uk Tel: 0161 943 0268
3. We have used Careclean. Website: www.careclean2000.co.uk
   MD is Rajan Bains. Mobile: 07791 671117
4. We sub out and use a company called Enviroduct and always found them to professional, reliable and great to deal with. Amanda Pearson – Enviro Duct Cleaning North West – Telephone: 01772 428073 – Mobile: 07974 652884 – Email: adminnw@enviroductcleaning.co.uk
5. I would recommend 100% Nationwide or just for the North: Sue McCarty – Managing Director – Quality Cleaning Company Limited. Email: smccarty@qualitycleaningcompany.co.uk Mobile: 07896046373
6. Contact Michael Clarke – Clarke Deep Cleaning Solutions Ltd – Mobile: 07855 584 928 – Tel: 01282 412 020 ‘We use these guys and they are very good and do work nationally’.
7. I would suggest they contact NAADCUK (National Association of Air Duct Cleaners UK) They have members who work to the highest standards throughout the UK. We worked with them on the solid fuel guide – www.naadcuk.co.uk
8. Our contacts highly recommend SW Enviro – https://swenviro.co.uk/ – Scott Watson is the contact there.

Question:

We’re seeking recommendations towards a certified trade contractor to run steam lines from a steam generator to various (4no.) laundry equipment on a London based project.

Replies:

1. It’s a long time since I have been involved with Steam, however the link below are suppliers of steam components and they might be able to guide the member in the right direction – https://www.spiraxsarco.com/global/en-GB

Question:

I have a client who is looking into food waste composting options. Can I please ask if any members would recommend anyone?

Replies:

1. I’ve only used ‘dewatering’ systems rather than composting – I believe IMC do a good one (we bought the dewaterer from them) and they do offer good advice (or they did when I used them – not sure if they’ve still got the same staff).